From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@yahoo.com)
Date: Sun Jan 12 2003 - 15:18:36 MST
--- Samantha Atkins <samantha@objectent.com> wrote:
> Mike Lorrey wrote:
> > --- Brett Paatsch <paatschb@ocean.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >>Seems "the world" is still awaiting proof on two propositions :
> >>
> >>Notable, in the Clonaid case, is that around 11 days have passed
> >>since the birth of the alleged clone and no proof has been
> presented.
> >
> >
> > Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence....
> > Furthermore, if the Church of Government were intent on
> Inquisitioning
> > you for acting on such science (as was done 500 years ago in
> another
> > science that challenged the powers that be), you'd be circumspect
> about
> > offering up proof of your guilt.
> >
>
> That seems very unlikely. If they were worried about that then
> they wouldn't have claimed bragging rights to start with. No,
> they made a public splash and in order to derive benefits from
> it (such as new drones/members) they have to offer up evidence
> it was more than a misguided lie/publicity stunt. The latter
> would lose potential converts and perhaps even existing members.
Clonaid are not the clones parents, and it is the parents who are under
legal attack in the courts right now. Their only defense at the moment
is secrecy.
>
> >
> > Ditto on rules of evidence as above. There is in fact evidence of
> > concealment in that significant quantities of chemical and
> biotoxins
> > known to be in inventory in 1998 are not accounted for in Iraq's
> most
> > recent Declaration to the Security Council. They have disappeared
> from
> > the tally, and Iraq refuses to disclose what happened to them.
> >
>
> Where precisely did you get this information?
Where millions of other informed citizens get it: cable news, the
newspapers, and the internet. Hans Blix stated these facts before the
Security Council (as did the US administration) after Iraq released its
Declaration to the UNSCOM.
>
> >>It seems that a whole lot of people are getting dressed up who are
> >>going to be very disappointed to have no place to go.
> >
> >
> > If you think they are not going anywhere, you are mistaken.
> >
>
> I hope to hell they aren't going anywhere like where they think
> they are. Any sane person would.
It isn't sane to wish to leave WMD in the hands of a madman any more
than it is sane to let a terrorist engage in negotiations for the
release of their hostages. You don't negotiate with terrorists, and you
don't tolerate the tyranny of a madman. Anyone who does is a fool and a coward.
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