RE: ExI in a world of politics (was Re: Memes.org: Transhumanism: The New Master Race? M)

From: Emlyn O'regan (oregan.emlyn@healthsolve.com.au)
Date: Tue Jan 07 2003 - 18:55:16 MST


>From what I understand, Natasha doesn't mean that Exi has no principles, no
positions, in a political climate. It's got a function as a kind of lobby
group, after all.

I interpreted Natasha's statements as saying in particular that Exi has no
political affiliations. eg: it has no association with any formal
Libertarian groups. Further, even though many Extropians might be
libertarian, or social democrat, or conservative, these leanings are
orthogonal to being Extropian, and Exi in turn has no bias in the political
dimension, as it does not involve itself in such.

This doesn't mean that it couldn't talk about having political opponents,
couldn't lobby political groups, or otherwise engage in the political
landscape in representing Extropy. It's just that it is not a political
party in and of itself, and doesn't desire to be.

But I could be wrong. :-)

Emlyn

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brett Paatsch [mailto:paatschb@ocean.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2003 11:14
> To: extropians@extropy.org
> Subject: ExI in a world of politics (was Re: Memes.org: Transhumanism:
> The New Master Race? M)
>
>
> From Natasha:
>
> > My .....concern with this list has been over the many years to
> > diffuse ........the wrongful claims made by some people that
> > ExI is a political organization, which it is NOT and claims no
> > particular affiliation with ANY one political mindset, platform
> > or organization.
>
> Second, it seems to me that politics is not something that one
> can always choose to avoid. If a group has a name, the name
> can be used to make a political target of the group or
> organisation, regardless of whether that group thinks of itself
> as a political organisation or not. (This is analogous I think to
> the old compete or cooperate fundamental choice. I may not
> *want* to be competitive. But if someone chooses to compete
> against me, they *can* remove the option of my cooperating
> with them and effectively make me either compete or
> unconditionally surrender. Effectively they can *make* me
> compete). Is it not similarly the case that ExI, although it may
> not see itself as a political organisation, and may not wish to
> be a political organisation, could be forced to act politically if
> someone or some organisation treats it politically? Perhaps
> attacks it or misrepresents it?

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