From: natashavita@earthlink.net
Date: Mon Jan 06 2003 - 13:11:16 MST
From: Brett Paatsch
>Whilst I understand Natasha concern, I am not sure that I can agree
with Hubert's "assessment" this time. It may well be that certain memes
can serve as bad examples and opportunities to differentiate ourselves
in the eyes of newbies (and some not so newbies) I think this group
*is* vital and energetic enough, and also that if it is to grow still more
effective in propagating its memes then it will need to do so under
environmental conditions that will not always be sweet sunshine and
soft gentle rain.<
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I think you may have taken this post too seriously, Brett.
While I prefer to lay cards on the table, I also foster any bit of wisdom
from life experience to steer clear of situations that suck energy. There
are far better ways of driving the meme engine than to focus on negative
commentary. Any smart book on business and psychological strategy will
concer that 10% focus on the problem and 90% focus on the solution has a
better chance of bringing about success.
In this case, a successful outcome for categorizing transhumanists
inappropriately would be to work harder positive memes that provoke
intelligent and compassionate acts. Hello Pro-Act.
>Frankly, it has hardly been tested yet in comparison with what may
be thrown at it by those seeing extropic memes as a threat and really
going after it.<
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Extropic memes are not a threat to anyone who is able to accept change.
Even the most conservative of people are aware that life is full of change.
> Certainly there was no threat to ExI from Lyle Burkhead
in the link I saw. He didn't even associate himself with extropians.<
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Exactly. He associated himself with trashumanism.
>Still, it is certainly not my list, and others have invested much in
setting it up and maintaining it. I consider myself to be an extropian
(as I understand it) and I will help defend the fort if it needs
defending so long as what is inside remains worth defending. I
certainly see no immediate danger of that not being the case.<
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Why do you consider the comment of one person, me, as a given for the list?
Just because I prefer not to discuss one person's ideas becasue I'd rather
focus on other things should not warrant any concern on your part.
>If any of the extropian committee (especially) ever sends me a
please desist or consider post offlist I *will* heed it. But I strongly
urge against shooting messengers, it is a very easy mistake to
make even for bright capable folk.<
I have no idea what you are talking about.
Kind regards,
Natasha
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