RE: FYI: MEDIA & Greenpeace

Anders Sandberg (
Fri, 6 Dec 1996 17:32:31 +0100 (MET)

On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Kathryn Aegis wrote:

> I'll join this conversation to a greater extent tomorrow (going to a
> gathering tonight to study sacred-flame sex rituals. If you don't hear
> from me tomorrow you'll know I was converted to earth-paganism!)

:-) Actually, I don't see paganism and extropianism as incompatible. In
fact, they might work well together if one isn't too dogmatic about either

> >IMO, there is a serious threat of these Green Fascists linking up with
> >religious fundamentalists to try and prohibit further technological
> >advances.
> 'Tisn't ever going to happen, because fundamentalists in general are
> pro-industry and anti-environmental, and because environmentalist
> activists lend their expertise to groups involved in pro-choice and
> gay rights activities. Technology in and of itself simply doesn't
> constitute a large enough "leapard" to unite the two tribes against.

My Machiavelli-subpersonality suggest that the obvious solution is to
subtly encourage the fundies and ecofascists into fighting, while we ally
with the more reasonable people alienated by this...

I wonder if it would be possible to use the bibliographic techniques
mentioned in the latest issue of Breakthrough for visualizing scientific
areas to identify the relations between the various movements. Might be
useful, or at least interesting.

Anders Sandberg Towards Ascension!
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