Re: JP Barlow, Ph.D, Social Engineering

Michael Butler (
Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:34:42 PST

Jeff Dee said:
Our ignorance of something doesn't stop it from being true. The burden is
on *us* to find out what is actually going on, whether we can do so
perfectly or not. Telling ourselves that 'reality' is only whatever we
happen to think it is at the moment is not helpful.

I say, paralleling your words but not intending sarcasm:
Our faith in something doesn't make it true. What is this "burden",
and what contract did I sign assuming it? Forgetting that languange
limits thought and that belief shapes perception is a frequent cause
of misery.

The guy hitting some jogger over the head with a crowbar may be real;
the thing that "made" him do that may not be. Or his motives might be
regarded as irrelevant. Depends on where you want to influence the
system. I agree it's a little late to explain or convince once the crowbar
starts its path toward the cranium...

MMB, at but not for OCV