Re: infectious vs oxidative stress theory of AIDS
Thu, 02 Dec 1999 11:15:16 -0500

Brian D Williams wrote:

> >Since "HIV" has not been isolated, the term "infected person"
> >used in that context seems premature.
> This is incorrect, The many members of the HIV virus family have
> been isolated.

Then could you kindly provide the reference to the paper that shows the scanning electron micrographs of the banded viral isolate. "Show me the money".

Here is the only one I can find:

And as two papers[1] in the March 1997 journal Virology reveal, the electronmicrographs disclose "major contaminants" in "pure HIV".

HIV expert Hans Gelderblom of Berlin's Robert Koch Institute, whose photos of non-banded 'HIV' material have been the industrial benchmark since 1987, co-authored the first paper which describes the contamination as "an excess of vesicles" - particles of cellular proteins,
that may contain DNA or RNA. In a consecutive paper, a US research team from the AIDS Vaccine Programme in Maryland reveal carefully, "It is unknown how these cellular proteins associate with the virus" and

warn, "The presence of microvesicles in purified retroviruses has practical implications": both teams discuss the resulting nonspecifity of
HIV tests, all of which are based on early unchecked "purified HIV".

In an historic admission that it has never been established which proteins
constitute 'HIV', the US scientists conclude, "The development of various purification strategies to separate microvesicles from HIV-particles ... will greatly enhance our ability to identify virion-associated cellular proteins." The imaging step in attempts at retroviral isolation was deemed essential when isolation procedure was discussed and decided at the Pasteur Institute, Paris in 1972, but it has
never been published before in the 13-year history of 'HIV'.

Pat Fallon

In 1988 Dr. Kary Mullis, the 1993 Nobel prize winner for Chemistry was employed
by the US National Institutes for Health (NIH) to set up analyses for HIV testing.
When preparing his report he asked a virologist colleague for a reference that HIV is
"the probable cause of AIDS". He was told he did not need one. Mullis was

"I disagreed. It was totally remarkable to me that the individual who had
discovered the cause of a deadly and as-yet-uncured disease would not be continually referenced in the scientific papers until that disease was
cured and forgotten… There had to be a published paper, or perhaps several of them, which taken together indicated that HIV was the probable cause of AIDS". Otherwise, as Mullis was forced to conclude, "The entire campaign against a disease increasingly regarded as the twentieth-century Black Death was based on a hypothesis whose origins no one could recall. That defied both scientific and common sense".

A decade later Mullis was to write, "I finally understood why I was having so much
trouble finding the references that linked HIV to AIDS. There weren’t any".
[Mullis KB. (1998). Dancing Naked in the Mind Field: Pantheon, 1998.]

[1]Bess JW, Gorelick RJ, Bosche WJ, Henderson LE, Arthur LO. (1997). Microvesicles are a source of contaminating cellular proteins found in purified HIV-1 preparations. Virol. 230:134-144.

Gluschankof P, Mondor I, Gelderblom HR, Sattentau QJ. (1997). Cell membrane vesicles are a major contaminant of gradient-enriched human immunodeficiency virus type-1 preparations. Virol. 230:125-133.