perception, consciousness

Rob Harris (
Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:58:05 -0000

Rob wrote:
>>you need consciousness before you can have true perception

John wrote:
>Probably. of course I can never know for certain.

Rob wrote:
>>How are you going to code that?

John wrote:
>By making the machine intelligent, that will probably do the trick, and
even if it
>doesn't it'll be good enough because I'll never be able to tell the

Rob added:
Again, how are you going to make the machine "intelligent"? Take it to some old tower, strap it to a table and run a lightning bolt through it? Also, you say that you won't know the difference so it doesn't matter - but didn't your original idea rest on the machine having "perception"??