Re: NY Times Lies Re: Goddard

Abraham Moses Genen (futurist@frontiernet.net)
Tue, 18 Nov 1997 20:13:07 -0500


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Abraham Moses Genen
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Being dedicated to the future progress of humankind=20
should be the prime concern of all civilized beings.=20
**************************************************************
Dear Fellow Extropians:

Having read Mr. Goddard's speculations, conjectures ( and possibly =
paranoid delusions)repeatedly, may I respectfully suggest that he =
consider reading Aristotle on scientific method followed by Blackstone =
on the rules of evidence.=20

AMG

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Goddard <igoddard@netkonnect.net>
To: extropians@extropy.org <extropians@extropy.org>
Date: Tuesday, November 18, 1997 5:49 AM
Subject: NY Times Lies Re: Goddard

>
>The New York Times editorial "Conspiracies, Real=20
>and Imagined" (11/14/97) falsely states that:=20
>"Mr. Goddard now says he INVENTED the tale [the=20
>Navy-Missile theory] to give the Government a=20
>'black eye.'" (emphasis added)
>
>I was contacted by Matthew Wald with the New York=20
>Times the day the CNN story hit, over a week before=20
>that NY Times editorial. I explained to Mr. Wald=20
>that I never admitted to perpetrating a sham or a=20
>hoax, that I have only presented eyewitness accounts=20
>and press reports pertaining to military activity=20
>on July 17, 1996. I "invented" NOTHING. I was even=20
>a relative late comer to the USN-TWA theory.
>
>I also sent him all the messages I have sent here.=20
>But nevertheless, the New York Times ignores what=20
>I actually say and instead they say that I said I=20
>invented the whole thing. Clearly, they chose to=20
>publish the false over the true. Why???!!
>
>This is a naked farce, a deliberate attempt to=20
>destroy the truth, the Navy-missile theory, and=20
>me to boot. Why would they do this? Other reports=20
>claim I wrote the so-called "anonymous Internet=20
>document," which was written by former 747 pilot=20
>Richard Russell. The unrelenting year-long sweep=20
>of disinformation throughout the media points to=20
>only one logical answer to that question: there=20
>is a massive media-wide cover-up underway.=20
>
>I have spoken with reporters who tell me they can-
>not cover witnesses accounts. When I ask why, no=20
>answer is given. All the major network programs,=20
>even fringe programs like HARD COPY, refuse to show=20
>the radar tapes, except a 2 second flash by Prime=20
>Time Live that prevented any meaningful perception=20
>of their content. Richard Russell, who had extra=20
>copies he forgot to give the FBI when they took=20
>the masters, has tried and tried to get media to=20
>show the tape, with no luck. It's authenticity is=20
>not in question. The FBI has conceded authenticity.=20
>It's a fact that Russell has inside contacts. The
>FBI has been interrogating his friends in an=20
>effort to track down that contact.
>
>The evidence is clear that there is a clamp down=20
>on all evidence pointing to Navy culpability and=20
>there is an agenda to destroy those pushing the=20
>case, particularly yours truly. It's all right=20
>there for anyone to see. It seems clear that it's=20
>a national security issue, and that under such,=20
>it's Marshall Law regarding the issue of TWA 800.=20
>
>Pointing in this direction is the fact that on=20
>the very same day (03/11/97) the FBI learned that=20
>Russell had the radar tapes, showing a possible=20
>Navy missile, and went to get the tapes, President=20
>Clinton signed Executive Order 13039, which excludes=20
>the Naval Special Warfare Development Group from=20
>federal whistle-blower protections for reasons of=20
>"national security." The SpecWarDevGru is involved=20
>in the littoral (coastal) Cruise Missile Defense=20
>program which seems to be what was happening off=20
>Long Island during the "Global Yankee '96" military=20
>exercises taking place off L.I. on July 17, 1996.
>
>You can see this eye-opening Executive Order here:
>
>http://www.pub.whitehouse.gov/white-house-publications/1997/03/1997-03-1=
1-ex
>ec-order-on-naval-special-warfare-development-group.text=20
>
>http://www.accessone.com/~rivero/CRASH/TWA/twa_labor.html
>
>E.O. 13039 went into effect one day before the Paris=20
>Match article came out showing photos of the radar=20
>tapes. I believe they fear any favorable media=20
>coverage such as the Match article, because this=20
>creates an atmosphere that could encourage "loose=20
>lips." It could make the suppressed feel it was safe=20
>to come out, that someone will listen. It seems that=20
>the master planners panicked when they realized the=20
>radar data was out and rushed to exempt the key Navy=20
>R&D group from whistle-blower protections.
>
>Allowing a fair degree of obvious media oppression=20
>may be determined as necessary to signal those that
>might speak up, that your dead meat if you do...
>look how we cooked Goddard's ass. If a Navy person
>came forward, they'd say he was perpetrating a hoax
>for money, for fame, to get back at his superiors...
>
>This is one of the most massive cover-ups in history.=20
>Anyone who takes the time to read a few of my short=20
>reports will see the utter transparency of it:
>
> http://www.erols.com/igoddard/journal.htm=20
>
>I have PROVEN that there is a cover-up:
>
> http://www.erols.com/igoddard/cover-up.htm=20
>
>I believe that my having shown its transparency is=20
>the reason I've been taken out to the woodshed by=20
>the GovtMedia for spankings over and over this last=20
>year. My butt got so sore I said I was sorry, but=20
>then they whipped my ass harder anyway, so why=20
>apologize? Hell... maybe I'm a masochist.
>
>
>
>****************************************************************
>VISIT Ian Williams Goddard ----> http://www.erols.com/igoddard
>________________________________________________________________
>
>

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Abraham Moses=20 Genen
**************************************************************Being=20 dedicated to the future progress of humankind
should be the prime = concern of=20 all civilized beings.=20
************************************************************** <= /DIV>
Dear Fellow Extropians:
 
Having read = Mr. Goddard's=20 speculations, conjectures ( and possibly paranoid delusions)repeatedly, = may I=20 respectfully suggest that he consider reading Aristotle on scientific = method=20 followed by Blackstone on the rules of evidence. 
 
AMG
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Ian = Goddard=20 <igoddard@netkonnect.net>To: extropians@extropy.org <extropians@extropy.org>
= Date:=20 Tuesday, November 18, 1997 5:49 AM
Subject: NY Times Lies Re:=20 Goddard

 
>
>The New York Times = editorial=20 "Conspiracies, Real
>and Imagined"  = (11/14/97) =20 falsely states that:
>"Mr. Goddard now says he INVENTED the = tale=20 [the
>Navy-Missile theory] to give the Government a =
>'black=20 eye.'"  (emphasis added)
>
>I was contacted by = Matthew=20 Wald with the New York
>Times the day the CNN story hit, over a = week=20 before
>that NY Times editorial. I explained to Mr. Wald =
>that I=20 never admitted to perpetrating a sham or a
>hoax, that I have = only=20 presented eyewitness accounts
>and press reports pertaining to = military=20 activity
>on July 17, 1996. I "invented" NOTHING. I was = even=20
>a relative late comer to the USN-TWA theory.
>
>I = also sent=20 him all the messages I have sent here.
>But nevertheless, the New = York=20 Times ignores what
>I actually say and instead they say that I = said I=20
>invented the whole thing. Clearly, they chose to
>publish = the=20 false over the true. Why???!!
>
>This is a naked farce, a = deliberate=20 attempt to
>destroy the truth, the Navy-missile theory, and =
>me to=20 boot. Why would they do this? Other reports
>claim I wrote the = so-called=20 "anonymous Internet
>document," which was written by = former 747=20 pilot
>Richard Russell. The unrelenting year-long sweep =
>of=20 disinformation throughout the media points to
>only one logical = answer to=20 that question: there
>is a massive media-wide cover-up underway.=20
>
>I have spoken with reporters who tell me they = can-
>not=20 cover witnesses accounts. When I ask why, no
>answer is given. = All the=20 major network programs,
>even fringe programs like HARD COPY, = refuse to=20 show
>the radar tapes, except a 2 second flash by Prime =
>Time Live=20 that prevented any meaningful perception
>of their content. = Richard=20 Russell, who had extra
>copies he forgot to give the FBI when = they took=20
>the masters, has tried and tried to get media to
>show = the tape,=20 with no luck. It's authenticity is
>not in question. The FBI has = conceded=20 authenticity.
>It's a fact that Russell has inside contacts.=20 The
>FBI has been interrogating his friends in an
>effort = to track=20 down that contact.
>
>The evidence is clear that there is a = clamp=20 down
>on all evidence pointing to Navy culpability and =
>there is=20 an agenda to destroy those pushing the
>case, particularly yours = truly.=20 It's all right
>there for anyone to see. It seems clear that it's =
>a national security issue, and that under such,
>it's = Marshall=20 Law regarding the issue of TWA 800.
>
>Pointing in this = direction=20 is the fact that on
>the very same day (03/11/97) the FBI learned = that=20
>Russell had the radar tapes, showing a possible
>Navy = missile,=20 and went to get the tapes, President
>Clinton signed Executive = Order=20 13039, which excludes
>the Naval Special Warfare Development = Group from=20
>federal whistle-blower protections for reasons of =
>"national=20 security." The SpecWarDevGru is involved
>in the littoral = (coastal)=20 Cruise Missile Defense
>program which seems to be what was = happening off=20
>Long Island during the "Global Yankee '96" military=20
>exercises taking place off L.I. on July 17, = 1996.
>
>You can=20 see this eye-opening Executive Order here:
>
>http://www.pub.whitehouse.gov/white-house-publications/1997/= 03/1997-03-11-ex
>ec-order-on-naval-special-warfare-development= -group.text=20
>
>http:/= /www.accessone.com/~rivero/CRASH/TWA/twa_labor.html
>
>E.= O.=20 13039 went into effect one day before the Paris
>Match article = came out=20 showing photos of the radar
>tapes. I believe they fear any = favorable=20 media
>coverage such as the Match article, because this =
>creates=20 an atmosphere that could encourage "loose
>lips." It = could make=20 the suppressed feel it was safe
>to come out, that someone will = listen.=20 It seems that
>the master planners panicked when they realized = the=20
>radar data was out and rushed to exempt the key Navy =
>R&D=20 group from whistle-blower protections.
>
>Allowing a fair = degree of=20 obvious media oppression
>may be determined as necessary to = signal those=20 that
>might speak up, that your dead meat if you do...
>look = how we=20 cooked Goddard's ass. If a Navy person
>came forward, they'd say = he was=20 perpetrating a hoax
>for money, for fame, to get back at his=20 superiors...
>
>This is one of the most massive cover-ups in = history.
>Anyone who takes the time to read a few of my short=20
>reports will see the utter transparency of = it:
>
http://www.erols.com/i= goddard/journal.htm=20
>
>I have PROVEN that there is a = cover-up:
>
http://www.erols.com/= igoddard/cover-up.htm=20
>
>I believe that my having shown its transparency is =
>the=20 reason I've been taken out to the woodshed by
>the GovtMedia for=20 spankings over and over this last
>year. My butt got so sore I = said I was=20 sorry, but
>then they whipped my ass harder anyway, so why=20
>apologize? Hell... maybe I'm a=20 masochist.
>
>
>
>*******************************= *********************************
>VISIT=20 Ian Williams Goddard  ---->  http://www.erols.com/igoddard<= BR>>________________________________________________________________>
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