Re: 9-11 Narco-Interrogation & Torture

From: Samantha Atkins (
Date: Mon Oct 29 2001 - 14:59:05 MST

Mike Lorrey wrote:
> Samantha Atkins wrote:
> >
> > "J. R. Molloy" wrote:
> > >
> > > Since the FBI have been doing this to American citizens for decades, it should
> > > surprise no one that they would do it to suspected terrorist non-citizens.
> > > This is shock level zero.
> >
> > For once, I agree with J.R.
> >
> > It surprises me mightily that those who distrust the government,
> > and do so with good cause, would now trust the government to
> > have wider and more uncontrolled and unscrutinized powers than
> > it has ever had as long as they claim that these powers are "for
> > your protection". We must not deliver the people to goons in
> > order to "fight terrorism". Terror begins at home.
> Those of us who distrust the government trust these foreign infiltrators
> and terrorists even less. Much as the Nationalists and Communist Chinese
> joined forces to fight the Japanese invaders, we must do the same. My
> goals (and those of other freedom lovers) are anathema to the radical
> islamic world. They are a classic example that the enemy of one's enemy
> is not always one's friend. I, and others, can at least maintain our own
> assets and abilities while contributing to the fight, and if the
> government doesn't relinquish it's police powers when the conflict is
> over, I will most certainly be involved in measures to force it to. Now
> is not the time, though. We must renew the social trust by weeding out
> those who seek to undermine it permanently, and they should not be
> treated with TLC.

Please not that our officials are expecting a very long
conflict, say on the order of the rest of our lifetime, before
it is "over". That rather changes the equation in my book. I
don't have a lifetime to screw around.

- samantha

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