Re: An Integral Psychology + new book

From: Samantha Atkins (
Date: Sun Dec 10 2000 - 16:25:13 MST wrote:
> there's an aspect of pattern-identity theory that I have been interested in
> to see if there is any process that may be capable of auto-recording the data
> that t Kind of like Santa's book on which little kiddies have been naughty
> and which have been nice. (Groan) anyway, there was this SciAm article by a
> few years ago that provoked me into looking for any info on this weird
> conjecture.
> I am wondering if there was a possible info storage substrate already built
> into the universe? The article dealt with a mythological court case in which
> one physicist's recipe for Hungarian goulash was cruelly, tossed into a black
> hole. The judge in the case eventually ruled that the recipe was not lost
> eternally, but could be theoretically recovered by extraordinary, but
> "normal" means. Totally weird and bogus, I realize ,and yet it seems like
> something worth learning about. Pursuing mirages, I know, but maybe we'd find
> that missing book of yours, as well as my socks that go missing from the
> clothes dryer. Also are you going to get this book published, stateside?

Sure. We can do these things and more (including resurrecting dead
ancestors) given a few assumptions:

1) that it is possible to extract the "you" as a pattern of informaiton
and such from your body;

2) that some future technology enables not only this but time travel
such that it is possible to come to this point in space time rather than
some variant created by the time-travel itself;

3) that these future uber-geeks decide to record the patterns of all
humans of the period.

Insert anything else of interest in the place of your consciousness
above. Tipler and company had (iirc) a super super computer
autogenerate all possibilities including ourselves. But that is a dumb
way to acheive such effects. Time travel and patern extraction, storage
and replay abilities will do the trick nicely.

I get a bit freaked reading books of myths and mysticism at how much of
what is presented as miraculous in those works could be acheieved with
sufficient technology. Sometimes I have the nagging suspicion that some
of these myths and legends grew out of a memory of more advanced
technology and capabilities that our distance forbears somehow had some
run-in with. Wouldn't it be a hoot if it turned out that this very
world is already chock full of something a level or two more complex
than nanotech or that it is a complex VR and that it is only usably
accessible to those "mystics" who get beyond their single-self ego
boundaries enough not to be a huge danger to themselves and others if
they could make use of some of its possibilities?

Pure speculation to be sure.

- samantha

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