Re: Extropians Mailing List --Approval Procedure

From: zeb haradon (
Date: Fri Nov 03 2000 - 20:43:28 MST

>From: "E. Shaun Russell" <>
>To: Olivia <>
>CC: extropian action <>, <>,
> <>, <>,
>Subject: Re: Extropians Mailing List --Approval Procedure
>Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 10:39:08

>List approvals are currently requiring some basic contact information:
>phone number, fixed residence, and e-mail address. This is due to some
>abuses of the list in the past few months (e.g.: personal attacks).
>Otherwise, the lists are all free and unmoderated, with the contact info
>being used for security purposes only.

A little while ago, in Colorado, the police raided a meth lab. They do not
know who was the one making the meth, but they found an invoice from a
bookstore for a book on how to make meth. They went to the bookstore with
warrants and demanded to see their list of customers (See
Something similar happened during the Clinton blow-job scandal, when a
bookstore was ordered to turn over records of Monica Lewinsky's purchases to
see if she'd purchased books on phone sex (I do not remember how this turned
out). Both the KKK and NAACP have in the past been ordered to turn over
membership lists.
I personally would not mind giving my name and phone number and all that. I
post everything here with my real name, I'm tracable and I'm fine with that,
and I understand the need to get this information to prevent slander/spam.
In your shoes, I'd very possibly do the same thing. But, I highly recommend
you make a promise to anyone giving you this information that all
information will be stored on only one computer, that it will be multiply
encrypted with the most secure technology available, and that if at any
point in time you are ordered by some legal body to turn over any portion of
the information, you will immediately destroy such information, and run a
"digital shredder" program on the hard drive it was stored on to make sure
it is unrecoverable, and that you will do this before even appealing the
legal decision.

Zeb Haradon (
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