Re: Extropians Mailing List --Approval Procedure

From: Brian Atkins (
Date: Fri Nov 03 2000 - 19:18:55 MST

"Eliezer S. Yudkowsky" wrote:
> Max More wrote:
> >
> > Sunah -- if you're a renewing member (and we know you), you don't have to
> > worry about this. This is a stop-gap measure to filter out newcomers who
> > are coming onto the List with the intent of causing trouble.
> I think it's going to kill the mailing list. I think the primary utility of
> this mailing list is as a de facto major rendezvous point for futurists - I
> know that's the first reason I'm still here. Put up barriers to entry, and
> you kill the list.

Remember he said it's only a temporary solution.

> The list does not need barriers to new members. It needs moderators who are
> less reluctant to exercise the power that they have. Either that, or it needs

This won't help out with the situation they want to avoid. By the time they
realize what's going on and kick off the bad guy, he's already posted who
knows how many messages. Not to mention that the moron can just sign back
up 5 minutes later with a different hotmail account.

> advanced filtering software that doesn't exist yet. And, oh yeah, the first
> five messages from new posters should be vetted before hitting the lists - but
> vet messages, instead of asking posters for physical addresses.

Won't work- think like a black hat: they send 5 innocuous posts that make it
past the moderator, then when they get unmoderated they flame away.

Any other suggestions?

Brian Atkins
Director, Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence

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