Re: GUNS: Why here?

From: Michael S. Lorrey (
Date: Tue Oct 10 2000 - 12:32:38 MDT

Chuck Kuecker wrote:
> At 09:57 PM 10/8/00 -0700, you wrote:
> > >
> >From:
> >
> Not to get the whole shouting match started again - but HCI has been known
> to present garbage numbers from time to time. Their avowed purpose is the
> removal of all privately held weapons, not "handgun control". I take all
> their figures with a large block of salt.
> At all the shows I have been to, the "unlicensed" dealers accounted for a
> small percentage of those present. They had small quantities of weapons, if
> any - most had accessories and parts, but not complete guns. Those who
> wanted to sell guns had to abide by all State of Illinois and federal laws.
> There are enough ATF agents provocateur and snitches out there to make life
> miserable for anyone cutting corners. Licensed dealers have too much
> invested to want to risk it all on a few bucks from illegal sales.

HCI considers any private individual who sells their private guns to be an
'unlicensed dealer'. While some states may outlaw private sales, most do not,
and consider it unconstitutional to do so.

> All Illinois waiting periods are also strictly enforced. It's a quick ride
> to jail if you try to bypass them and get caught.

While the number of people proven to have been killed due to waiting periods is
higher than those shown to have been saved...
> Interesting aside - a local (Colorado) reporter supposedly has information
> that someone called the local hospital on an official emergency line over
> an hour before the shooting started - warning them to be ready for "bomb
> and gunshot" victims. Government conspiracy, anyone?

I would LOVE to hear more about this...

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