Re: [2] Freedom or death

den Otter (
Mon, 11 Aug 1997 20:59:23 +0200

>Brian D Williams <>
> >Brent Allsop <> wrote:

> >So anyway, let me ask you a question I've been struggling with
> >about what the proper behavior should be. Lets say you have a
> >very close loved one. Say it is one of your children or
> >something. Lets say he's about 17 years old and you know that
> >throughout his life he has consistently expressed a desire to not
> >be cryonically preserved possibly because he is a totally
> >convinced member of some religion which is against it. Let's call
> >him Jeff. You figure Jeff hasn't really seriously considered
> >dieing or whether he would really want to be preserved because he
> >is so young even though he has several times explicitly said to
> >you he did not want to make any effort to be preserved.
> Jeff has made his wishes clear
> >"Do we preserve him or don't we?"
> If you are a libertarian....... no.
> >What would you tell them to do?
> I would respect his wishes in this matter.
> >I ask anyone that is a better moral expert than I, what should
> >I do?
> Morals are an individual matter, (therefore beyond experts) we are
> responsible for our actions, unless mentally disabled. You should
> do what you think best, but you should also take responsibility for
> your actions, and realize if revived, Jeff may chose to have
> nothing to do with you for ignoring his wishes.

Tell me, what crime is worse: kidnapping or murder? (rhetorical question!)

Murder of course, because it's [effect is] irreversible. For this very
reason, many oppose the death penalty; what if you **make a wrong
judgement**? You can never undo the damage...the person is gone forever.

So, in the case of the reluctant suspension victim, the choice is easy
you're full of ivory tower ideological crap, of course :(#(