Re: Is IQ usefully predictive? (not in one case)

From: Olga Bourlin (
Date: Fri Aug 24 2001 - 16:42:25 MDT

From: "Mike Lorrey" <>

> John Clark wrote:
> >
> > The physicist Richard Feynman was one of the greatest geniuses of the
> > century and when he was in high school he had an IQ test. He got a
mediocre 125.
> > The best definition of intelligence that I can think of is " the sort of
> > that Richard Feynman did" therefore the disgrace can not be Feynman's,
> > it's the advocates of the test who should feel embarrassed.
> >
> > Years later after he became famous and won the Nobel prize the people at
> > Mensa wrote to him and begged him to join, he took great delight in
> > them that he could not, he just wasn't smart enough.
> Well, I have a little bit to add on that: I have an IQ of 160, as many
> IQ tests will attest, yet the school counselors told my parents that my
> IQ was only 125. I've heard similar stories from many other people who
> are geniuses, and it's my opinion that the old "IQ of 125" is one of
> those little scams that the teaching establishment does to eliminate
> special treatment of genius kids.

Maybe the school counselors subtracted a few points from you for your lack
of insight about some things "in general"; furthermore, you may have lost a
few more points in the "compassion" category.

> Those same counselors claimed I had the same IQ as my older brother, but
> he was a dope to the point that we were taking the same math classes in
> high school even though I was two years younger, and I was tutoring him
> on the homework. I got A's on tests, he got C minuses on tests.

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