Re: Yeah, guns and guns and guns and guns

Joe E. Dees (
Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:27:09 -0500

From:           	Mark Phillips <>
Subject:        	Re: Yeah, guns and guns and guns and guns
Date sent:      	Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:33:27 CDT
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> Now, now, guys; aren't y'all gittin' a bit "flamy" here (NOT to say light in
> the loafers!! ha ha) Seriously, Joe, you need to calm the rhetoric DOWN a
> little. I, too, generally sympathize with (most, anyway) of what MIke,
> Mark, Brian & other "gun-nuts" (note the hell outta the scare-quotes) have
> argued. Yet *I* don't advocate that the really, truly psycho should be able
> to access/possess guns (or any other lethal weapon(s) for that matter).
> Kids, though, are, at least to some extent, a gray area (and always have
> been, especially in libertarianism(s)). Can a 14-yr. old (or even, say
> 13-yr. old or 12-yr. old) have, say a .22 hunting rifle. I say (at
> tentatively) YES! (The 14-yr., that is---I'm still all the more ambivalent
> about the younger ages). But can a 14-yr. old rightly pack concealed 9mm
> heat down Main St. Tentatively, I say NO--s/he's not mature enough; but I'm
> open to persuasion otherwise.
What about the convicted violent criminals? D'ya think they should be allowed to pack? And I have dished out no wirse than I have taken, including baldfaced lies concerning my assertions by two of the principals (i refuse to stoop that low; the truth is enough to sustain my position).
> But I still agree with your (Joe's) position(s) at the principle level, it's
> the pragmatic implementation that troubles me in some contexts. So, again,
> I seem to sympathize/agree with all of the (personages) above. So what's
> up? Where's the beef? Can't we all just get all??
> Just some rif-ruminations on this particular rif of yours.
> Best to all!
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