Re: Why are we allowed to age?

Mark Grant (
Sat, 14 Jun 1997 11:54:08 +0000

On Fri, 13 Jun 1997, Dan Hook wrote:

> Menopause actually
> occurs regularly in primitive human societies (in other words, women live
> that long).

Of course; like I said, the fatal genes don't kill these women until after
they've stopped reproducing, and menopause is close enough to the normal
age of death in those societies that it isn't a big problem.

> Fertility is already in decline by that period (probably due
> to other agents already discussed) so being able to give birth would not
> result in a great success for the genes.

That seems like another circular argument. If the genes weren't reducing
fertility then they'd have a greater chance of success.

> It
> is a fallacy to think that genes don't "care" about a person after they
> have reproduced. Genes care about a person as long as the existence of
> that person is a benefit to the genes.

Of course it's some kind of compromise between all these factors.


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