Guru George (
Mon, 14 Apr 1997 01:35:28 GMT

On Sat, 12 Apr 1997 22:41:13 +0000
Mark Grant <> wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Mike Rose wrote:
>> Lilly suggests that the brain gets white noise and picks its own reality
>> out of the noise. But how do NDEs and OOBEs produce this noise?
>I'm not sure what you mean by white noise. Do you mean that there's
>nothing external at all, just noise? I think that the 'clear light' which
>both groups (and the Buddhists) talk about is (in some sense) the universe
>seen by the brain without its filters. In both cases the filters have
>broken down and to get back you must choose a set of filters to use. You
>can either keep the old ones or pick a new set.
What if what Buddhists call 'clear light' is what Lilly and other
scientists would call 'noise': i.e. the thing or experience is the same,
but looked at from different perspectives?

Is the clear light experience perhaps just experiencing noise *as* noise,
rather than giving in to the habit of trying to find a signal?

Guru George