Re: New large cryonics facility/theme park planned

From: Mark Plus (
Date: Sun Apr 22 2001 - 16:07:37 MDT

E. Shaun Russell wrote,

>From: "E. Shaun Russell" <>
>Subject: Re: New large cryonics facility/theme park planned
>Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 13:54:07 -0700 (PDT)
>Brian Atkins forwarded:
> >
>I have known about this project for some time through Bill Faloon and other
>sources. It will indeed be a legitimate enterprise and I wish Bill, Saul
>and the others involved the best of fortunes with it. Personally, I think
>it may be a case of putting the cart before the horse --I am optimistic
>about the future of cryonics, but for a building with a 10,000 patient
>capacity, I am not so certain whether or not now is the best time to create
>such a project. Still, I am also aware that the effective creation of a
>facility of this size should add a lot of credibility to the field of
>Since the timeframe for TimeShip to be operating is about six years away,
>is possible that given enough marketing, cryonics will be palatable to
>enough people that the facility will be useful and even necessary. It is,
>however, a bit of a leap of faith, and one which I hope is effective.
>In the meantime, it is my hope that more people become willing to do more
>the field of cryonics than is currently being done. The best way to ensure
>that TimeShip launches effectively is to help lay the groundwork.

Frankly, I don't understand why the people who run cryonics organizations
make the decisions they do. E.g., Alcor has no money budgeted for remote
standbys, yet it's trying to raise $200,000 for "marketing."

This Timeship scheme reminds me of a "new country" project a young
libertarian brainiac in cryonics was plugging in the early 1990's. He
wasted a lot of cryonicists' time with it, yet it went nowhere. I'd rather
that cryonics organizations concentrate on (a) staying financially solid,
and (b) improving the biomedical credibility of the procedure through
vitrification research and better response capabilities for members who
deanimate suddenly. The cryonics bunker realistically shouldn't be
considered all that urgent until the basic technological problems in
stabilizing human brains have been solved.

Trans-millennially yours,

Mark Plus, Expansionary
"Working to make religion and death obsolescent in the 21st Century."

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