Re: spike's Body, a modern medical enigma

From: Ross A. Finlayson (
Date: Tue Apr 17 2001 - 23:13:20 MDT

I got the flu and and could not have food in my stomach or gastrointestinal
system for the day a couple weeks ago. The reason I say that is because it is
one of the few times in the past ten years that I have been ill besides from
drinking large quantities of alcohol. So, it went away and I felt better the
next day.

So, I weigh the same as I did before that, having the flu, which is more now
than then. It was a serious illness, I was vomiting every fifteen minutes for
hours, which when before it started felt quite irregular, thus that I noticed
it. So, I spent more than six hours moving to and from the bathroom, I was
lucid for having several fevers. The next day, I still could not eat very much
at all. My mother brought me some soup. The day after that, I ate regular
food. I almost feel better for having had it, but would not redo it.

Having a healthy immune system is a good thing, as well as is having good
health. I learned new things about vomiting.

John Marlow wrote:

> To wax completely anecdotal for a moment, it's often the case that
> when a severe illness strikes, bodyweight plummets and a healthy man
> of 250 may quickly drop to 180, and then recover. Sometimes they put
> the weight back on, often they are "never the same."
> It occurs to me that someone starting out this skinny can't be
> healthy, and has no reserves to spare; you get hit with a severe
> illness, you die. True, you may (or may not) be less likely to
> contract it--but it seems a bad bet overall.
> Any thoughts?
> looking for excuses, the not-skinny
> jm

About the reserves, it is true and false. Think about this, body reserves form
fat are left over as a defense from back in the days when food might be
unavailable. Also, there are large people and then there are people who are not
as mobile because of higher concentrations of body fat, but some people that are
large actually have larger muscles, so there are fat people and fat people.

My metabolism, for example, is fast to the point that there is more body fat for
being relatively sedentary and eating fatty foods than before. When I say
relatively sedentary that means sitting at a computer for hundreds and hundreds
of hours mixed with sleep and walking around.

Is there a particular reason that Spike's physical characteristic is of note
herein or is this moreso recognition of Spike for something? I will reread what
is there.

> On 17 Apr 2001, at 20:43, Spike Jones wrote:
> > > "True, alas true. A quarter century of CR has left a mere
> > > shell of a man, 6 ft tall, 125 pounds. I have a washboard
> > > back. I prefer the phrase "brain and bone" however."
> >
> > Al Villalobos wrote:
> >
> > > Do people flee in horror when you take your shirt off at the beach? ;-)
> >
> > No. I flee in horror from the beach.
> >
> > Actually if I ever go there, I cover all my skin, long pants, long
> > sleeves, sox, shoes and hat.
> >
> > > ...have you been tracking your CR with blood
> > > chemistry tests of any kind?
> > > CBC, glucose, IGF-1, or any of those?
> > > If available, I think they would be MOST interesting to the group.
> >
> > How do I get all that stuff? I have records from 18 blood donations,
> > but I dont think they measure any of those parameters.
> >
> > Ive never been scientific about CR other than to alternate
> > vitamins, a few months with, a few months without for
> > several years to see what they do, and to vary the calories
> > to see if there is any correllation, CR with depression/anxiety,
> > or anything else. I kept a record book for a few years
> > as a teenager. My admittedly unscientific finding: the
> > vitamins didn't do anything at all, and if there is any
> > correllation between CR and depression it was weak
> > indeed in my case. Perhaps I was using the wrong
> > vitamins? Mine were standard grocery store variety,
> > nothing exotic. I eventually gave them up, but I may
> > go back again to a limited regimen.
> >
> > > Were you a skinny sort of guy before you started CR? To me, at 70.5" and
> > > 165lbs and 8% bodyfat, 6' 125lbs seems almost borderline impossible.
> >
> > Ja, its scary. My BMI has always been in the
> > neighborhood of 17. On the brighter side, Ive
> > escaped the health problems that have cursed
> > my family. Im 40: several people have told me
> > that I dont look a day over 39.
> >
> > Of course, they told me that 10 years ago, but
> > lets not get hung up in the details.
> >
> > On the down side, Im pretty sure that CR causes
> > severe brain damage. Thats my story anyway, and Im
> > sticking to it. spike
> >
> >
> John Marlow

I do not think I exercise that much. I think Spike has said things about
motorcycling. I think action sports are interesting, like driving sports.

What is CR?

There are all kinds of drugs. Basically, drugs are chemicals. Alcohol, for
example, drinking alcohol, is a simple and unsurprisely effective drug.


Ross Andrew Finlayson
Finlayson Consulting
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