Re: Is rational patriotism anti-extropian? I don't think so...

From: Charlie Stross (
Date: Wed Apr 19 2000 - 06:52:51 MDT

On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 08:13:15AM -0400, Michael S. Lorrey wrote:
> > And, if you're thinking about Lockerbie, it's worth bearing the alternative
> > theories in mind. (You know exactly who was _supposed_ to be on board
> > Pan Am 109, but cancelled his party's reservation an hour before takeoff
> > and caught the next flight?)
> >
> > Clue: here in Scotland, 90% of the informed opinion is that the Lockerbie
> > trial will deliver one of two verdicts -- "not guilty" or "not proven".
> >
> I haddn't heard who was supposed to be on the flight, but I had heard
> that the defense had a supposed witness that claims a big US drug
> operation at the airport in question, who is most likely an IRA stalking
> horse (considering how much the IRA owes Gadaffi, I don't doubt it). I
> can't imagine that actual taped conversations of Gadaffi congradulating
> the team would not make it an open and shut case.

Of course, such evidence would make it an open and shut case. But I hope
you'll pardon me for doubting that evidence that hard exists; if it did,
it'd have been produced by now (if only to shut up carping critics like
myself :).

The person I was told was due to fly on Pan Am 109, incidentally, was
'Pik' Botha, the South African minister of defense, and his entourage.

(Note that I don't have a documentary source for this to hand, so I'll
have to do a lot of digging if you challenge me on it. So be it.)

If this isn't just synchronicity in action, I find the current South
African government's mediation in getting the Libyans accused of the
bombing a fair trial in a neutral country somewhat ... interesting.

-- Charlie

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