Re: RE: changing traffic lights by the force of your personality

From: animated silicon love doll (
Date: Mon Feb 11 2002 - 10:57:53 MST

2002.02.11 09:22:44, Michael Wiik <> wrote:

>Don't do it, Chesh! Most likely you won't find any measurable
>difference, get turned off on magick, and get stuck at red lights for
>the rest of your life. Once you start trying to pin it down, it'll go
>away. Magick doesn't gel with empirical investigation.

I probably wouldn't, but I would just remember that whenever I tried to post anything
about it here and get in another war that I can't win :)

>Chances are almost certain anyway that we're living in a simulation,
>where bored programmers amuse themselves by letting reality slip a
>little for some people who are open to the flow. Generally, this means

*shrug* I have little to no opinion on the simulation issue; I think it would be really neat if
we are, though. Though that did remind me of the similarities between the old-school
hacker ethos and the magickian ethos! The laws of physics are no different from any
other, and I will break them, too, if they are in my way :p

>extropians are excluded. It'd cause too many aberrations if they let it
>slip for those engaged in any kind of scientific work. Aberrations mean
>long days of work tweaking reality below the surface such that the
>anomaly gets all logically explained in some theoretical paper written
>by a physicist in Turkey a week before the observed event.

Yeah. Although it occurs to me that, while we may be able to see how that works in
theory and even in the equations that let it happen, until we do the expirement ourselves
we have as little proof of any given amazing scientific thing as we do of any given
amazing magickal thing. Or maybe that's just me; I can wrap my brains around these
things in theory, but when faced with even something as simple as the speed of light my
brain wants to explode (though I'm not sure if it can't figure out if it's absurd that there's an
absolute limit to velocity, or of it's absurd that something can break that.
This is what comes, btw, from having a pseudo-new age mother and a geek father.
I always say how I'm not like my parents, until I look at myself from anything vaguely
resembling an objective standpoint and realize that I'm just like them.

cheshire morgan. Advance and never halt, for advancing is perfection.
                        Advance and do not fear the thorns in the path,
                        for they draw only corrupt blood.
                                -Kahlil Gibran

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