From: Erik Sayle (lists@thecri.org)
Date: Sun Apr 27 2003 - 17:44:54 MDT
You mention Zicam. I have been using this for a few years now with
significant results. Of course this is not scientific, but my testimonial is
that it does affect my colds! When i first feel a cold coming on, and I get
alot of small colds, I immediately use it. If I am lethargic, within 1 hour
my energy goes up.
Normally, a cold for me goes something like this: 7 days of mucous, no
fever, but lethargy and lots of congestion. Doing anything is a no fun.
Another 7 days of things getting better. 14 days till I can go to gym again.
On Zicam, it goes like this. Take Zicam, 3 days of feeling half bad works
then I get better. Within 7 days if I take correctly I feel fine, can go to
gym agian.
BUT, sometimes I have felt so good on ~ day 4 that I go out, then relapse,
then I have a low level lingering cold for 2 more weeks. This is the oly
possible downside i have had, but now i take it easy for at 7 days on zicam.
I do notice something w Zicam, I suspect that it is sort of toxic to your
nasal passages, and kills the virus or someting. It can make you get a sore
throart if you swallow.
Do not use unless you start it at beginning of cold.
I have used it on at least 20 colds over 3 years so I have a bit of
experince, and i have a degree in Molecular Biology, so i am not a lay
person.
I have no idea about SARS, but I am curious about Zinc and colds and maybe
SARS.
Erik Sayle
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Osborn" <philosborn2001@yahoo.com>
To: <extropians@extropy.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 3:48 PM
Subject: RE: SARS: Strategies
> I scared the s... out of my then "girlfriend" a couple
> months back when I suggested that she stock up in
> advance on face masks, consumables, NAC, Zicam and
> Sambucol. It was clear then that this was serious.
>
> There are 20 doublings from now to complete saturation
> of the human population. For a while it appeared that
> doublings were at a rate of one per 7-10 days, which
> doesn't leave time for a vaccine. Now, with extensive
> containment and detection efforts underway and better,
> more verifiable reporting, the rate seems to have
> slowed to one doubling per 15-20 days, which gives us
> about a year, ceteris parabus (sp?).
>
> However, the containment facilities, etc. are already
> being strained to the limit. If SARS breaks out and
> can no longer be contained, then the doubling time
> will drop drastically, and then the best strategy may
> be to fly and then boat to a remote enough region - S.
> Sea island, outback, alaskan wilderness, etc., - that
> no one infected is likely to get that far, and hole up
> for the duration, until it's burned thru the
> population and/or a vaccine is available.
>
> As has been mentioned, if this gets out in Africa it's
> going to take care of most of the AIDS problem, ditto
> worldwide on a real outbreak scenario. The Social
> Security System will benefit. And, China may
> "benefit" in the long run, as they have a serious
> problem with millions of unemployed/unemployable rural
> peasants flooding into the cities.
>
> As any serious search will reveal, SARS is quite
> capable of killing healthy young individuals, but of
> course the elderly or immune-compromised are at
> special risk.
>
> A research scientist friend of mine with good DoD
> connections tells me that he has info to the effect
> that DoD gives SARS a 50% chance of being a bioweapon
> that got away, presumeably from teh Chinese.
>
> Ironic, if true, as they are the major source of the
> Flu, costing a hundred billion $ or so per year, due
> to raising pigs, ducks, etc.
>
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