RE: Europe and assimilation

From: cryofan@mylinuxisp.com
Date: Thu Mar 13 2003 - 07:41:31 MST

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    someone said:

    > >Well, the immigrants, of course. Isn't it a good deal for everyone?

    Maybe, maybe not.

    Regarding the social security/pensions issues. Let me see, what is the math
    on that? If N residents of X western country with a birthrate of Q are taxed
    K dollars over their working career of P years, and there is a resulting
    pension fund amount has a deficit of -M dollars, and so then to rectify the
    situation, we bring in L immigrants with an expected birthrate of Q*(1.Y),
    who will work for P-C years (why should they work longer? They are here for
    *fewer* years on average, obviously!), then the resulting pension fund
    amount is a *deficit* of (-M + O)* (1.D). This is of course an
    approximation.....

    I am not sure if the immigration policies put forth by the media (via "think
    tank" studies funded by low-cost-labor loving corporate lobbies) are correct
    or incorrect, but when I see the amount of propaganda being spewed and the
    demonization rites being performed upon immigration naysayers, I get very
    nervous.

    And then there is the cultural issue, and also issues of what possible
    attributes may be associated with a race that may immigrate. I am not sure
    whether these issues are significant, but when there is so much money
    available to cram these policies down the throats of the citizens of western
    cultures, I get very suspicious.

    It would see to me that a country and its present situation is at least in
    some aspect a product of the people and culture that constitutes its
    citizenry. Deriving that conclusion should not be rocket science. The well
    being of the citizens of a country is not dependent solely on the depth of
    its topsoil or the number of its oil wells. It seems to me that the culture
    of the people is a major factor in its well being. And large amounts of
    immigration from country A to country B would seem to make country B's
    culture more like country A's culture. Again, this would seem to be fairly
    straighforward.

    There are many other aspects of race that are not even being brought into the
    public debate. Is anyone here aware of the frictions and effects caused by
    different races in public schools? It is huge! IS this being discussed in the
    public "debate"?



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