Re: COPY: Sagan:Reply to: Breaking My Promise

Robert Owen (
Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:52:28 -0400

KPJ wrote:

>A vocal group of list members pay tribute to the concepts

> ``property'',
> ``the right to bear arms'',
> and ``natural law''
> with some fervour, however. One might wish to avoid questioning these concepts
> in order to avoid an involuntary jihad.

Hello KPJ,

With all due respect, this sounds more like a right-wing political platform that an Extropian philosophical position. Surely you're not suggesting that a subculture with this group is presuming to regulate the content of List posts. That wouldn't do at all.

The phrases above all appear to be related in some way to early American political documents which have become laws difficult of interpretation, even by the Supreme Court. Stated baldly as above, they are really quite meaningless, and I wouldn't know HOW to question them unless I knew what they meant.

But only "natural law" is of any interest to me philosophically in any case, although of course I haven't the faintest idea what you are talking about. Any process of analyzing the nature and logical status of your concept is out of the question.

Best regards,


Robert M. Owen
The Orion Institute
57 W. Morgan Street
Brevard, NC 28712-3659 USA