Rik van Riel (
Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:20:45 +0200 (CEST)

On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Brian S wrote:

> Just wondering, where do you live and work now? Are
> you sure that you have a less restrictive government
> there?

I'm living in the Netherlands now. Although the government here is rather prone to get involved with people's personal life, there are a number of precautions that make it 'safe':

- people are presumed innocent until proven otherwise
- evidence gathered by illegal means is void
- people have a number of rights that are guaranteed and that
can easily be used against the government without fear for repercussions (seems to be different in some other countries) - the government and the judicial system are very much independant of each other
- the current trend is to teach and promote tolerance when it comes to other ways of life, other cultures, etc

> The only place I'm aware of, that is less restrictive
> than the US is Hong Kong.

Hong Kong? I think we might be talking about other kinds of restrictiveness :)

Rik - who lost all mail between 15:30 and 21:10 UTC, sept 30th

      if you sent me anything important during that period,
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