Re: Nazis memories

Michael Lorrey (
Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:22:34 -0500

J. Maxwell Legg wrote:

> Ian Goddard wrote:
> > IAN: A libertarian society is a society in which
> > a set of collective rules (political power) exist
> > that define the rights of individuals. Robinson
> > Crusoe has no political rights, and the example
> > of your computer free from the net is Crusoe.
> >
> > So there's no contradiction between the concepts of
> > political rights, the individual, and libertarianism.
> > The individual in society has political rights, more
> > or less, but Robinson Crusoe has no polical rights.
> >
> Crusoe is still an individual and your earlier statement that the basic
> political unit in your definition of Libertarianism is the individual. I
> contradict this. Sure the basic political unit may reside in the
> individual but isn't the individual. The individual may be a type of
> political unit but hardly *the* basic one. I would be happy to accept
> that another basic political unit maybe an abstract conflict of some
> sort. I don't say all conflicts because right now I'm installing a
> network and have irq conflicts; - unless you accept that my relationship
> with the net is political.

Politics is interhuman relations, just as TCP/IP is a protocol by which means individual computers communicate. A computer by itself has no need of TCP/IP, just as an individual hermit (RObinson Crusoe) has no need of politics. When one individual meets another, and they interact on an ongoing basis, a protocol to exchange data is needed. This is politics. The difference between socialism and libertarianism is like the difference between the network concepts of server/client versus distributed networking. A Mainframe is like a Socialist State, and the people are mere terminals, while a Libertarian Network is all PC's interconnected and sharing data on an equal basis.

Mike Lorrey