Re: TECHNOLOGY AND TRUST (LONG), was Re: some U.S. observations and notes

From: J. R. Molloy (
Date: Sun Dec 30 2001 - 13:04:08 MST

From: "Kai Becker" <>
> My vision is to live in a society where everyone finds it absurd to carry a
> gun - too heavy, too uncomfortable, too dangerous and simply unnecessary.
> And don't tell me that's impossible. We are discussing infinite
> life-extension, mind uploading and nanotechnology here, so what about a
> little extropian sociology, hm?

What a great idea -- "extropian sociology"
...and how 'bout extropian sociobiology, and extropian behavioral genetics?
Of course it would be nice to live in a world without guns, and I imagine such
a world would also be without religious fanatics, wouldn't it? After all,
religious fanatics can make weapons out of anything... even airplanes. So,
before you envision a society where everyone finds it absurd to carry a gun,
better envision one where everyone finds it absurd to carry religious memes.

> Now, what about the glorious
> future of <you-name-it> technology, when you can't use it because someone
> could misuse it to kill you?

I think you've discovered the necessity of developing extropian brains before
developing other kinds of extropian technology. Just as existence precedes
essence, so glorious extropian brains precede glorious future <you-name-it>

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Useless hypotheses, etc.:
 consciousness, phlogiston, philosophy, vitalism, mind, free will, qualia,
analog computing, cultural relativism, GAC, Cyc, Eliza, cryonics, individual
uniqueness, ego, human values, scientific relinquishment, malevolent AI,
non-sensory experience, SETI

We move into a better future in proportion as science displaces superstition.

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