Re: some U.S. observations and notes

From: Geraint Rees (
Date: Mon Dec 24 2001 - 16:33:40 MST

On 12/24/01 9:40 PM, "James Rogers" <> wrote:

> With respect to correlations between guns, murder, and violent crime in
> general, of all the myriads of studies of various populations around the
> world there is only one correlation that seems to be universal. That
> correlation is that there is an inverse relationship between the number of
> guns and gun owners in the general population and the violent crime rates.

I believe this statement is at best misleading; at least for the violent
crime of homicide. Here is data on homicide rate and household gun ownership
percentages taken from

        homicide gun ownership
 USA 7.6 48
 Switzerland 1.2 27
 Finland 3.0 23
 New Zealand 2.0 22
 Australia 1.9 19
 Sweden 1.3 15
 W.Germany 1.2 9

A reasonably strong positive association between homicide rates and the
percentage (OK, not number...) of households with guns is apparent.

It's worth taking a look at figures 1-3 of the URL if you're interested. The
document cited here is part of a UK Home Office submission to the Cullen
inquiry about the Dunblane massacre (the 1996 killing of 15 primary school
children and their teacher by Thomas Hamilton). If you need/want to look at
the full judicial inquiry findings, they are at



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