Re: some U.S. observations and notes

From: Patrick Wilken (
Date: Mon Dec 24 2001 - 14:13:08 MST

>From: James Rogers
>Similar trends apply to the UK as well. As has been mentioned in the past,
>at the beginning of the 20th century when guns were totally unregulated in
>the UK, the murder rate was substantially lower than it was at the end of
>the 20th century when handguns were basically outlawed. The same goes for
>overall violent crime rates.

I have no doubt we are going over old ground here. However, its a
truism that correlation does not imply causation. Lots of things have
changed in the UK over the last hundred years. It would be a stretch
to imply that guns, or their lack, are responsible for all these

>It should also be noted that virtually all of the concentrations of violent
>crime in the US occur in locales where firearms have been banned or severely

Again this is just an argument from correlation. Is there any
evidence that is more convincing? I realise that this sort of
evidence is hard to come by.

best, patrick

Patrick Wilken  
Postdoctoral Fellow in Biology, Caltech
Editor:        PSYCHE: An International Journal of Research on Consciousness
Board Member:      The Association for the Scientific Study of Consciousness           

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