Re: Forgotten memory

From: Dossy (
Date: Wed Dec 19 2001 - 07:31:08 MST

On 2001.12.18, <> wrote:
> I rented the movie Memento over the weekend, an unusual film noire which
> will be on many top ten lists this year.

As much as I think you're right, that's sad. Memento was one of
the worst movies I'd seen this year. On the DVD there was a short
written piece which I guess the movie was based off of, which was
SO much better than the movie itself. Great idea, horribly executed.
So horribly so, that I was really disappointed.

> With his memories constantly being erased,

His in-brain memories, perhaps. But, he still has external memories,
those he captures in a persistent way. So, to some degree, he still
has memories.

> is there any point to staying alive?

He still has a goal.

I have a difficult time remembering things from my past, even as
recently as a week ago. Is there any point to my staying alive?

> If you were in Leonard's situation, would you try to live, to improve
> your life? Or might one just as well give up?

I'd stay alive for a few reasons:

1) There may be a cure or a repair that would restore my ability
to form long-term memories sometime within my lifetime.

2) My long-term memories (formed since the injury) may not truly
be lost, but just inaccessible. Some day, I may be able to access
those long-term memories again.

3) I still have all the physical effects in the world that can
effectively replace my own natural long-term memory, at least to
the point where I can continue to function day-to-day.

> Like Leonard, our life will be a series of time-bounded moments, with
> continuity and causality linking them, but no sense of common
> identity.

You say this as though we ALL don't live our lives like Leonard
to some degree. I wonder ...

Just because you have natural long-term memory and that you perceive
a sense of continuity and we want to believe that there's causality,
how seriously convinced are you of it? Enough to feel that you're
functioning as "normal"? Take out long-term memory ... what would
it take to still have a sense of continuity and sufficiently provide
evidence of causality? Would external cues be sufficient? Perhaps ...

-- Dossy

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  "He realized the fastest way to change is to laugh at your own
    folly -- then you can let go and quickly move on." (p. 70)

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