>Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 11:58:58 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Brian D Williams <email@example.com>
>Subject: Re: Democracy held hostage
> >From: "Smigrodzki, Rafal" <SmigrodzkiR@MSX.UPMC.EDU>
> >Brian Williams wrote:
> >Murdering innocent civilians is a definition of cowardly (and
> >criminal) in any soldiers book, and should be in anyones book.
> >### Just for the sake of philosophical hair-splitting - murdering
> >innocent civilians is definitely evil, but not necessarily
> >cowardly, and in some legal systems is not even criminal. If you
> >attack with your bare hands, knowing you will die, it's maybe
> >deranged but not cowardly, even if you attack civilians rather
> >than soldiers.
>The problem isn't your philosophical system, it's mine, and in mine
>these men were/are cowards and will be treated/refered to as such.
Well, that settles it then....
>These acts took place within the borders of the continental U.S.,
>and by our standards and laws they are both cowardly and criminal.
And these standards are of course unflawed....
> >Cowardly is the one who doesn't have the strength to stand for his
> >beliefs, or who would slink away rather than face the consequences
> >of his choices, or who would rather send others to do the
> >dangerous work but is always ready to benefit from their
>They most certainly did slink away rather than face the
>consequences, so by your own standards they are indeed cowards.
>Their associates will not be able to slink away.
Hmmm....Then why did you invent all those stealth aircraft, if not to
"slink" in, do the damage, then "slink away" again?
> >The 9/11 fanatics and some of their still living buddies are,
> >unfortunately, not cowards.
>A matter of your own opinion, and in violation of your own
>standards as I've already pointed out.
>By our standards they are cowards,
Oh, they're _our_ standards now? How kind, you saved us the trouble of
formulating our own...
>and I'm sure my mates will
>remind them of such as they are removing them from the face of the
Oh of course. My "mates" will sort it, no bother, how's yer father etc....
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>"Joe Dees" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>"Party of Citizens"<email@example.com>
Yep, I definately started posting again too soon. Another week off for me
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and
crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures
to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid."
-Q, Star Trek:TNG episode 'Q Who'
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