>At 22:28 -0500 12/11/00, Harvey Newstrom wrote:
>>I think the key question here is how the two copies are connected.
>
>*sigh*  There is no connection.  I've seen no one on my side of the 
>argument so much as imply that there was one, even a little.
That's why I have difficulty in believing they are "one" thing.  They 
seem seperate and not connected in any way.  They just are following 
the same design and therefore act similarly.
>I had typed up several lengthy paragraphs expounding upon why I 
>thought that you would construct such a wildly obvious straw man, 
>but I realized that it would make no difference.  There's a basic 
>misunderstanding of positions on both sides of this argument:
A strawman is when you misrepresent the other's position and then 
attack it.  Representing my own unpopular opinion is not a strawman.
>To us, the importance of our continued existence is adequately 
>represented by any *identical* copy that continues to carry on with 
>our thoughts and memories.
Agreed.
>To you, the importance of your continued existence is only 
>adequately represented by the program looking at the world through 
>the eyes of the original you.
Mostly right, except that the physical eyes can be replaced with 
other physical eyes within the same original.
>Trying to pretend that those core values can somehow be melded or 
>argued around has turned out to be a rather fruitless endeavor.  Fun 
>and thought-provoking, but fruitless in terms of coming to any kind 
>of consensus.
That's what I've been saying for a long time.  We neither disagree in 
science or specifics.  We disagree in goals and motives.
-- Harvey Newstrom <HarveyNewstrom.com>
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