Re: Computer Orgasms WAS Re: Interesting Idea

Technotranscendence (
Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:12:55 -0700

Tuesday, August 17, 1999 6:11 PM phil osborn <> wrote:
> > > An interesting idea. Since orgasm is a mind/body interaction would two
> > > upload personalities having sex actually experience anything? Cybersex
> > > between a computer and human in a virtual reality suit would make
> > >but between two computers????
> >
> >I don't see why not. If the uploaded personality could experience other
> >things -- if it's completely isomorphic to the nonuploaded personality --
> >there seems to be no reason it could not experience orgasms, stubbed
> >or whatever, provided the stimuli were provided, such as exciting the
> >connections, parts of its software, or what have you.
> It is clear that you do not understand what an orgasm is. I will send the
> full explanation later, but, for the moment, think about what happens when
> you get the microphone too close to the speaker in a PA system.... Also,
> consider the details of the system - what frequency is produced, how pure
> is, how quickly it rises, what the respective components share in common,
> and how do sound engineers block such feedback... There are fairly exact
> analogies to orgasm here....

I don't follow Phil here. Obviously, if an orgasm is like a positive feedback loop, then this can also be done on nonorganic hardware. Heck, the example he uses -- the piercing screach of a speaker-microphone loop -- is hardware!

My point was and IS that I think this can be done in a computer too. Maybe things will have to be redesigned a bit, but it's not ruled out by anything Ralph Lewis or Phil Osborn have written that I've read.

And if anyone should bring up that current computers place limits on such feedback loops, I'd also point out that human brains seem to have similar limits. After all, orgasms only last a brief period in most people. They do not go on for years until your head pops.:)


Daniel Ust