dem dang otters
jaan.ranniko@smtpgw.aftrs.edu.au
Fri, 08 Aug 97 17:15:32 0
     "The following massive rant is meant for all those questioning the
     idea of meme supremacy (some memes are [a lot] better than
     others and one is the best [for all people, eventhough they may
     not understand this yet]"
     
     Answer me this Mr Otter... the following concept is / is not the basis 
     for the scientific method: any idea, however attractive, is rejected 
     in the face of proof of it's falsity - ie: NO IDEA IS SACRED. 
     This may seem paradoxical to one as obviously obsessive as yourself, 
     and obsessive's tend to feel pain when confronted with paradox but 
     every poison has its' remedy: Here is my question: Can you please 
     explain how you manage to live in a logical universe free of 
     contradiction which contains the following memes: "One (meme) is the 
     best (supreme, I take it)" and "No idea is sacred". 
     
     The concept of *no idea being sacred* is the basis for scientific 
     enquiry and it's emergence is largely responsible for the period we 
     know as the Rennaisance. It seems to follow that the loss of this 
     modus operandi would signal the final end of Rennaisance as well as 
     the west european civilization of which you seem so fond. 
     I stand open to correction on this point, of course.
     
     Your principle points in this opening paragraph to what is, if I may 
     say, quite a stunning piece of posting overall, is that 
     
     A: All memes are not equal 
     and 
     B: One meme is the best. 
     
     A is true, particularly given the context dependancy of all memes - 
     "Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder" and all that. Also: given that 
     the term "equal" (ditto "better" and "best") suggests a scale of some 
     kind; one wonders what this scale exists to measure? I would expect it 
     to represent a scale of value, namely your value (s), given your use 
     of the term "best" in statement B. I don't think I'm open to any 
     contradiction in saying that the term "best" is an absolute value 
     statement. 
     
     I'm not sure whose values you claim to represent, but I'll guess that 
     they are yours. Unless you can provide me with some kind of petition 
     showing the names of those who share your values, I'm going to turn 
     this guess into an assumption.
     
     Statement "B" is just bollocks I'm afraid, objectively speaking (and I 
     hate speaking objectively), although I'm sure it is subjectively true 
     for you.
     
     Now that I've gotten that stuff out of the way; here's my translation 
     from your pseudo pop scientific drivel:   
     
     "some memes are [a lot] better than
     others and one is the best [for all people, eventhough they may
     not understand this yet]"
     
     means:
     
     I like some ideas (a lot) better than others. I like one idea best. 
     Everyone should agree with me, even if they don't (or is it "even if 
     they are too stupid to."?).
     
     Well, that just lovely, Mr Otter. Again I stress: Unless you manage to 
     replace this idea that *one meme is supreme for all people* with a 
     working understanding of *no idea being sacred*; I'm afraid it's going 
     to be you and people like you that most threaten (what used to be 
     called western) civilization. And I'm most happy to tell you that 
     there's plenty of us out here to stop you making that mistake for 
     everyone else.
     
     Scanning the rest of your diatribe I found nothing else I feel like 
     commenting on just now, except:
     
     "The good news is that brains will almost certainly be 
     "reprogrammable" in
     the future, thus giving ultimately all (blah, blah, blah)" - sometimes 
     this almost does strike me as good news...almost.
     
     In closing:
     You're a young, good looking, white male. If you're out to achieve 
     world domination for yourself and your kind my advice is this:
     
     "Get a note from your mom. Because you're going to have to take at 
     least a day off of school for this."
     - Max Headroom  1986
     
     :)