Re: An apology - Re: Singularity: Can't happen here

From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@datamann.com)
Date: Thu Sep 13 2001 - 10:22:42 MDT


Technotranscendence wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:07 PM Mike Lorrey mlorrey@datamann.com
> wrote:
> > Well, so do I. However, I think that the idea that American military
> > people would be so casual about firing on freinds, relatives, etc is at
> > least as laughable. Being a veteran myself, I can pretty much say that
> > outside of a few nuts and racists, 99% of military personnel would say
> > that the idea of shooting at Americans is not what they signed up for,
> > and would be considered to be illegal orders.
>
> What of Kent State?
>
> Anyhow, I hope you're right. Certainly, American law enforcement personel
> have no restraint in this area, though it mainly seems to be a melanin thing
> with them.
>
> > The only possible
> > exceptions to this, I think, would be shooting at left wingers.... you
> > might get more cooperation on that score (oh, and lawyers, too)....
>
> I hope you're not serious here.

Generally I am not serious on this, to the extent protrayed, but, as you
noted the exception of Kent State, military folks generally have the
sentiment that left wingers think that you have to be a psychopathic
baby killing murderer to want to serve your country in the military, and
the fact that lefties are far more enthusiastic about identifying first
with any group OTHER than Americans, whether it be elitist Franco-philic
or Euro-philic quiche eating, or the more prevalent movements of
'hyphenated americans', and are so ready to schuck their duty as
citizens and dodge the draft, etc.

By the eyes of many military people, since lefties generally don't
consider themselves to be Americans first, they are expressly asking to
be treated in a second class manner. More so, many consider the left
wing demagogery of activists and a good chunk of the legal profession in
general to be traitors to the Constitution, tearing it down while hiding
behind it.

It is good to see, though, in this instance that so many of those on the
left are finally realizing what a bankrupt philosophy the concept of
moral equivalence is. Not all are though. Listening to a call-in program
on public radio yesterday, I was disgusted by the namby pamby BS coming
from it seems every bleeding heart in the Twin State region calling in
and yakking about 'not jumping to conclusions', of 'stepping back to
take a breath', and realizing how 'oppressed' these terrorists have
been. Osama bin Laden has never been 'oppressed', how 'violence isn't
the answer'..... He's worth nearly a billion dollars, and his family
continues to funnel money to him, and he and his followers certainly DO
understand the value of violence to the exclusion of most everything
else.

I have often written here about how rebels, revolutionaries, and
terrorists are not born, they are made. They do not act irrationally,
they use violence in entirely rational ways that is consistent with the
politics and security of their movement. They do have value systems
entirely different from ours which permits them to act in ways
consistent with their cultural paradigm.

This does not mean that they are right, that they have a right to their
opinion, or that they or their movements should be permitted to exist.
There is no such thing as moral equivalence. This is a concept of the
moral coward, who uses it to avoid making the difficult commitments
required as a responsibility of citizenship in decent society. It is at
best a lazy attitude, and at worst a bankrupt and traitorous one.

The fact is that those on the left tend, to a far greater degree, nearly
exclusively, to be moral cowards of this sort, and is why those of us
who have served, and those who continue to serve, in defense of decent
society, do not trust those on the left as full citizens: they refuse to
act like full citizens.

I can only hope that this episode in history serves as an educational
one: there is objective right and wrong in the universe, and there comes
a time where vaccillation on this is no longer acceptable to
intelligent, sentient individual beings.



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