Re: Olber again (was: Re: Big Bang is Bunk)

From: Mike Lorrey (
Date: Tue Jul 31 2001 - 09:04:45 MDT>
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Miriam English wrote:
> At 11:48 AM 30/07/2001 -0400, Mike Lorrey wrote:
> >Miriam English wrote:
> > > - If old matter is crushed out of existence in black holes then there is
> > > no net gain and the universe can be the temperature it is. Conservation of
> > > energy/mass becomes just a handy guide if you have stuff popping into
> > > existence in the great voids, or everything all at once at the beginning.
> >
> >Which mandates a much larger number of black holes present in the
> >universe than have been detected, especially if it is infinitely old,
> >the universe should be chock full of them.
> If matter is crushed out of existence then it doesn't collect.

This is another one of the ignorant 'free lunch' claims that can't pan
out. Matter that falls into a black hole isn't 'crushed out of
existence'. Its mass adds to the gravitational field of the black hole.
Thus in a universe of infinite age, some proportion of black holes would
have infinite mass, and would thus cause the infinite universe to
destroy itself.

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