Re: regarding the YINYANG post on extropians

From: Party of Citizens (
Date: Fri Jul 27 2001 - 20:50:41 MDT

You have to allow for metaphors and a few enigmas in the Bible. For
example what is the Biblical "unicorn"? And, is the Book of Jonah one long
Divine comedy? I laugh a lot when I read it.

On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Spike Jones wrote:

> Party of Citizens wrote:
> > ...Show me one
> > prophet or other religious leader in the Bible who directed us to ignore
> > logical-empirical, scientific reality. Faith is followed by works because
> > without works, faith is dead. And works must be tested. The Bible never
> > said otherwise. Metaphysics doesn't detract from physics one bit.
> > POC
> Party, the best counterexample to your challenge I can think of is
> found in Mark 16:17,18
> "17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name they shall cast
> out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
> 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not
> hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."
> Nowthen, this is done to this day. They *do* cast out devils. First step
> is to convince the victim that they *have* devils. They do speak in new
> tongues, in fact I have done this myself. Long story.
> On the other hand, there are deaths every year from yahoos handling
> snakes. Imagine their surprise when they get bitten and die. Poison
> drinking knocks off a few boneheads every year. Now, they do
> lay hands on the sick, and sometimes the sick recover, depending on
> what exactly they are sick with, and what antibiotics are administered
> along with the laying on of hands.
> spike

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