On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Mike Lorrey wrote:
> Party of Citizens wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Mike Lorrey wrote:
> > > Party of Citizens wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Is it founded on truth...present and future? Does it stand for something
> > > > other than truth? If so, what?
> > >
> > > Something founded on fact is not considered religion, since religion
> > > relys on faith unsupported by any facts or testable phenomena.
> > But grasshopper...I asked about TRUTH. Is that the essence of
> > Extropianism? Are Extropians true believers?
> We are not believers, belief hinders the critical faculties. We are
> knowers and we extrapolate and theorize based on facts that are already
> in evidence. We do not have faith or belief to the extent that
> religionists do, since we insist on testability, Occam's Razor, etc.
You are splitting hairs, grasshopper. If I know this is my hand in front
of my yinyang, then I BELIEVE it is in front of my yinyang. Show me one
prophet or other religious leader in the Bible who directed us to ignore
logical-empirical, scientific reality. Faith is followed by works because
without works, faith is dead. And works must be tested. The Bible never
said otherwise. Metaphysics doesn't detract from physics one bit.
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