Re: New Utopia

Anders Sandberg (
29 Jun 1998 16:58:59 +0200

den Otter <> writes:

> You can start with a practical mission statement (autonomy, wealth
> and [thus] a good starting position for the coming singularity, for
> example). A transhuman "order", or mutual aid group. Extropy Institute
> is certainly on the right path, but still lacks the clear goal that's
> needed to focus your effort, and to actually achieve something
> tangible.

I think we should distinguish between the transhumanist organizations
we have right now (ExI, Transcedo, Aleph et al), which are mainly
intended to spread the meme and help us get in touch, and the future
transhuman economic organizations. It is probably a good idea to make
the later independent of the former and start out small and

> If you want to promote a philosophy, what better way is
> there then by successful living?

Exactly. The day people see that transhumanism is *useful* and anybody
can use it, then things will start rolling. But we better manage to
live siccessful first, and make sure it doesn't look like magic,
conspiracy or unachievable genius.

> > To sum up: I want to live in Oceania/New Utopia/Stateless too, but we
> > need more than a loophole in UN regulations to do it. It might be
> > better to start with thinking of how to create transhumanist
> > companies.
> Yes, companies are necessary for the start-up capital (money is
> "the great problem solver"). Any suggestions (personally, I
> still think the watch's a good idea ;-)

The watch is a good idea, I want one for myself. But there is so much
more: wearable computers, intelligence amplification software, mental
training courses, AI applications, medical technology, life extension
treatments, new media, knowledge management, future analysis, you name

Anders Sandberg                                      Towards Ascension!                  
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