Re: Physics -- Anti-Holism... What?!!

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Wed, 27 May 1998 13:58:24 CST

> From: "Steve Massey" <>
> To:
> Subject: Re: Physics -- Anti-Holism... What?!!
> Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 12:56:43 CDT
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> >
> > IAN: Hay, we're making progress! Now you
> > need to show what in physics supports your
> > claim that atomism helps make predictions.
> >
> > Can you name any physical attribute of any
> > thing, A, such as weight, size, velocity,
> > color, that is assigned to A free from
> > not-A. Since your so sure that such
> > non-holism exists, this should be
> > as easy knocking off one liners.
> > Just show one example of atomism.
> >
> How about this... I have a piano in one corner of a room. Not the
> piano is a particular shape - the room minus the piano. I move it
> to the other side of the room. The piano is still the same. Not
> the piano is a different shape. I move the piano into a different
> room - not the piano, with respect to the room, is again different.
> The piano is still the same. Yeah?
> Or similarly, the numeral zero on the integer scale and the numeral
> zero on the rationals are both the same - the integers are a subset
> of the rationals after all. However, not zero in either case is
> different.
> Steve.

If you stand in the same spot in the room to observe the piano, then
move the piano (no matter what the light will strike it differently,
there fore you are wrong + you cannot place the piano in exactly the
same place in another corner, the piano will rotate.