Re: A Challenge To All Extropians

Randall R Randall (
Sat, 2 May 1998 00:20:29 -0400

On Fri, 1 May 1998 18:20:32 -0700 "Peter C. McCluskey" <>

> (Randall R Randall) writes:
>>Whoops. Sorry, but without using force, you have to
>>provide someone else with value, in order to get
>>value from them.
> I guess you've never heard of Linux, Netscape, the Red Cross, etc?

Well, lemme rephrase. :) *You* may not have
to trade value for value, but no one acts without
a perceived value in doing so. People work on
Linux for various reasons, but all of them get
something out of it, whether its the satisfaction
of having other people know they did something,
just having fun coding, or working on something
for their own use. Netscape needs to create a
situation which sells server software, and so they
will (if successful) sell enough servers to recoup
their investment in giving away browsers. Do you
imagine that the Red Cross' volunteers don't feel
that the work they do is worth doing?
At any rate, I think that any system based on
widespread, expensive charity will fail, and that
is what I meant by the original statement.

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