Yak Wax (
Sat, 4 Apr 1998 08:02:13 -0800 (PST)

Warrl kyree Tale'sedrin wrote:

> If "everybody wants the power" in the sense
> that they are competing against each other
> for it, they will form gangs.

I've never heard of a gang without a leader. I'm not sure it's
possible, even consensus among the gang members would mean giving up a
degree of power. If an organisation could be formed within this
situation it is likely to be short-lived and highly unstable.

> A stable anarchy would indeed make each
> person a government -- over a very small
> area that doesn't overlap with anybody
> else's very small area except by mutual
> consent. That doesn't create the
> situation of multiple governments over
> the same area.

The original idea of anarchy is to give all individuals the ability to
pursue their own freedom. A freedom dictated only by other like
individuals (the reason why "traditional" anarchists are against large
corporations and establishments.) Once you start using restriction
and consensus to achieve this goal you loose the original intent. The
truth is, although we can talk about how anarchy might occur (and try
to encourage those elements involved), forcing it to do so is a
complete contradiction to its very nature.

But we are in agreement on one fact - all individuals must fill the
power vacuum. The only way this can occur is through more powerful
and ubiquitous technologies of 'control.' The definition of 'control'
has becoming ubiquitous communication (broadcast.) The original
ideology of the Internet was to give all users the power to create,
distribute, and use information in an attempt to decentralise the
power of the media. Without a doubt continuing this trend would be
advantageous to all individuals (especially me.) And don't be fooled
by the consumer-capitalist front-end that's been tacked on to the
Internet recently, it's just there to fund it's own demise.

Randall R Randall wrote:

> > not really, take away private
> > property and Bill Gates's magical
> > powers dissolve into thin air.
> And with them go technology and any
> cooperation on a large scale.

Without private property *all* you get is large-scale co-operation.

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