Re: Keeping AI at bay (was: How to help create a singularity)

From: Anders Sandberg (
Date: Sat May 05 2001 - 03:03:02 MDT

On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 02:15:59PM -0700, Damien Sullivan wrote:
> I just don't like to see this defeatism about the human brain, and early
> turning to the blind idiot god of natural selection[1]. Yeah, selecting on
> bitspray can work, but selecting on higher-order stuff is much cooler and
> faster.

Exactly. Just because it is a mess doesn't mean it is a *hopeless* mess.
I think we can already say a few useful things about how it might be
improved (such as where we might want to add extra input channels to
modulate processing, for example) and in a few years it is likely we
understand enough to really start coming up with fun improvements.

> [1] Lovecraft reference. "Azathoth, the blind idiot suzerain of the universe,
> gibbering madly at the center of all things." I've thought that's a wonderful
> metaphor for natural selection. The gibbering can be the random mutations.

It is a very good metaphor.

> I don't think Yog-Sothoth maps to anything real. Laws of physics, maybe.

I always envisioned it as spacetime. It is coincident with all space and
time, and knows the gates (wormholes).

Nyarlathotep is entropy of course.

Hmm, maybe the birth of a new organisation: Extropians for Cthulhu :-)

"That is not dead that can eternal lie, and with strange eons even death
may die"

Anders Sandberg                                      Towards Ascension!                  
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