Re: Tiresome Vitriol--was SPACE: Tito Interview

From: John Marlow (
Date: Fri Apr 27 2001 - 23:20:46 MDT

#A few final comments...

On 27 Apr 2001, at 23:14, Brian Atkins wrote:

> No the problem seems to be, that there couldn't possibly be anything wrong
> with your behavior, therefore my criticisms of you must be personal

#Yes; "stupid" "buffoon," and "moron," in combination with the word
"you" do in fact constitute a personal attack. Sorry. My general
comments, aimed at no one in particular, do not. It seems this must
be explained. (I am however guilty of the occasional humorous barb.)

> You seem to be incapable of learning from the feedback being offered up by
> pretty much everyone here.

#Actually, the vast majority have been silent; and your comments have
drawn far more criticism and questioning than mine.

> As for malice, what do you call this?
> "Well, let me turn that around, if I may, by asking: What do humans
> consider to be the most common errors made by extropians?
> Speaking as one of the former, I'd have to say (as a ***generalization,***
> of course; there are notable exceptions) a tendency to
> overintellectualize everything to the point of absurdity,
> overreliance on what I would term material reductionism to the point
> of rabidity; overt hostility to differing viewpoints and to criticism
> (however mild) to the point of ridiculosity; technophilia to the
> point of fanaticism.
> In short--they're not ready for prime time. "

#I call what I labeled it--a ***generalization,*** and constructive

> def. of malice: "Enmity of heart; malevolence; ill will; a spirit
> delighting in harm or misfortune to another; a disposition
> to injure another;"

#Excellent definition.

> That seems to fit your general observed behavior in many cases.

#Not in one--but we do agree quite strongly on one point:

>none of this is getting through. Just keep putting
> your own faults onto others, I'm sure that will work great for you.



> --
> Brian Atkins
> Director, Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence

John Marlow

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