Use of force -was:crime in big cities and Europe

From: \[ Robert-Coyote \] (coyyote@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Jun 22 2000 - 15:15:53 MDT


re:"Driving over him once you could dismiss as an accident. If you changed
gears and
> went over him a second time, you might have some problems..."

You may find this useful as many statutes are uniform:

RCW 9A.16.020
Use of force -- When lawful.
The use, attempt, or offer to use force upon or toward the person of another
is not unlawful in the following cases:

(1) Whenever necessarily used by a public officer in the performance of a
legal duty, or a person assisting the officer and acting under the officer's
direction;

(2) Whenever necessarily used by a person arresting one who has committed a
felony and delivering him or her to a public officer competent to receive
him or her into custody;

(3) Whenever used by a party about to be injured, or by another lawfully
aiding him or her, in preventing or attempting to prevent an offense against
his or her person, or a malicious trespass, or other malicious interference
with real or personal property lawfully in his or her possession, in case
the force is not more than is necessary;

(4) Whenever reasonably used by a person to detain someone who enters or
remains unlawfully in a building or on real property lawfully in the
possession of such person, so long as such detention is reasonable in
duration and manner to investigate the reason for the detained person's
presence on the premises, and so long as the premises in question did not
reasonably appear to be intended to be open to members of the public;

(5) Whenever used by a carrier of passengers or the carrier's authorized
agent or servant, or other person assisting them at their request in
expelling from a carriage, railway car, vessel, or other vehicle, a
passenger who refuses to obey a lawful and reasonable regulation prescribed
for the conduct of passengers, if such vehicle has first been stopped and
the force used is not more than is necessary to expel the offender with
reasonable regard to the offender's personal safety;

(6) Whenever used by any person to prevent a mentally ill, mentally
incompetent, or mentally disabled person from committing an act dangerous to
any person, or in enforcing necessary restraint for the protection or
restoration to health of the person, during such period only as is necessary
to obtain legal authority for the restraint or custody of the person.

"Michael S. Lorrey" wrote:
>
> Doug Jones wrote:
> >
> > BTW, in my cab driving days I once had a belligerent passenger
(standing
> > behind the open left rear door) grab my left wrist as I reached back
for
> > the cash awkwardly offered from behind. He started to lift a weapon in
> > his right hand (I never did see exactly what it was), so I threw the
> > gearshift in reverse and ran him over with the door. If I'd thought
> > just a bit faster I'd have cocked the wheel to my right to swing the
> > front of the car over him, too. Asshole.
>
> Driving over him once you could dismiss as an accident. If you changed
gears and
> went over him a second time, you might have some problems...

Hell, I backed up all the way to the end of the block, did a skidding
90 turn, the door slammed when I hit the brakes, and I burned rubber
out of there. He may have had a gun, I'd lost track of his buddy, and I
had his bait $10 bill for a $7 fare, so I figured I won... don't mess
with a cabbie, he has a lethal weapon at his fingertips.

Those were exciting days. Now I just run rocket engines from two feet
away :)

--
Doug Jones
Rocket Plumber, XCOR Aerospace
http://www.xcor-aerospace.com

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