Re: AW: GUNS: AW: crime in big cities and Europe

From: Michael S. Lorrey (
Date: Thu Jun 22 2000 - 11:56:02 MDT

Karsten Baender wrote:
> The
> > >Communists and the Nazi are but two excellent examples of
> > >political systems who had a great interest in disarming their
> > >people.
> >
> > In this country we call them democrats.
> Oh, well, in Germany, this is public oppinion. For a long time I was against
> guns, too, but then I slowly began to doubt if this was the right choice. I
> don't know of a politician openly advocating liberal gun laws.
> > May I suggest for more info.
> Thanks, that's just what I needed. I wonder if it would be possible to
> organize such a lobby in Germany.

I beleive there is an NRA affilliate in Germany.

> > We don't have a problem with the truth, the other side does.
> It seems so. But do you know how you can tell that a politician is lying? He
> opens his mouth ...
> At least that's the case here in Germany.

Its a genetic trait among lawyers (no, its a lifestyle choice). You can tell
they are lying when they call the NRA an 'industry assocation' or 'gun industry
lobby'. The NRA receives no money from gun makers, its membership (now 3 million
and rising) are overwhelmingly common, working class, law abiding citizens.
Anti-gunners have serious problems telling the truth, beginning with their
claims to be 'reasonable', 'rational' people who do support the 2nd amendment
(but only as they interpret it). They claim to not want to take away all guns,
however they have been caught several times in the past admitting that this is
in fact their goal.

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