Re: soccer violence as a model for post-scarcity gesellschaft

From: Rob Sweeney (
Date: Mon Jun 19 2000 - 11:57:35 MDT

* Joao Magalhaes <> [000619 10:45]:
> I didn't know we lived in a oppressive society? A question: since Europeans
> live in an oppressive society and legal system, how come we never riot as
> it happens in LA? No racism?

Never riot? Perhaps there are Europeans, and Europeans. When I lived in
Zurich, I saw a very nice, full-out riot in the center of the city - complete
with broken windows up and down the Bahnhofstrasse, riot police, looting, and
anything else you might want. I also saw skinhead attacks more than once,
and quite blatant police brutality numerous times. I actually became more
concerned for my safety walking around there sometimes than I am home in
NYC - because in Zurich, I found I wasn't able to accurately sense that a
situation was becoming dangerous - the violent things I saw happen seemed
to come out of nowhere.

I've seen riots in several places - yes, mostly in the US, but Europeans
can do a good job of it too.

/rs Rob Sweeney
Time is a warning.

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