RE: law enforcement for profit

From: Zero Powers (
Date: Fri May 05 2000 - 21:01:41 MDT

>From: "Billy Brown" <>

>Zero Powers wrote:
> > If I have a micro-camera that I wear all the time (much like the L.A.
> > Sherriffs), and you invite me into your private spaces, is that
> > surveillance? Now say 20% of the population wears the same kind of
> > Heck it becomes so handy to vid-conference with friends and family
> > you get the whim, imagine that everyone who now carries a cell phone
> > everywhere they go, trades in the cell phone for a micro-cell-cam. Now
> > everyone you talk to, everywhere you go is potentially recording
> > everything you say and do.
> >
> > Looky there Big Brother didn't even have to lift a finger to do it, and
> > can't blame him when every lie you ever tell ends up on America's
> > Home Videos!!
>You'll note that I recently pointed out that very possibility (well,
>inevitability, actually) in a recent post.
>However, this does not get you the 'transparent' society you wanted.

Funny, I don't ever remember describing the kind of transparent society I

>doesn't help the government catch pot smokers, or sexual perverts, or
>else whos 'crimes' are consensual. Real criminal will not film themselves,
>and they will break or steal private surveillance systems when they can.
>Criminal conspiracies won't keep recordings for you either, unless they are
>especially stupid. The list of wholes in the system goes on and on.
>Also, there are problems with using the recordings as evidence. Without a
>central database it takes real effort to figure out who might have a
>recording you want, find them, find out what they actually have, persuade
>them to let you see it, figure out if it is real footage or something that
>was faked up, etc. The net effect is not a transparent society, but simply
>one in which it is hard to lie convincingly about what you did in public.

There is no question that a completely transparent society would be near
impossible to implement *now*. However, all the obstacles you mention are
dependent upon present-day public attitudes and present-day technology.
Both of these are rapidly changing, even exponentially so. So when you tell
me that ubiquitous surveillance won't happen *in the future* I simply don't
believe it. I could be wrong, but I don't believe it.


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--Thomas Jefferson

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