Everything ??? What would be the holism of the inside of a perfectly
isolated system???
And Reilly Jones wrote: Things do have a beginning and an end, there
are indivisible things,
>these are related to 'the Many' to matter or bits of substance, to discrete
>time.
Really do ??? ( ???)
You said there are indivisible things...They cannot have an end so... At
the end they would be divided anyway, possibly in a real or complex (or
else) number of parts, or even if by infinite... pluf ! :-)
><...you cannot get something from nothing...>
>
>Tell that to the Big Bang crackpots. You cannot get energy from itself,
>nor can you get identity from itself, nor can you get an axiom from itself.
> More is involved than holism.
>
..... But.... if things "do" have a beginning, the universe had one... and
all come from nothing....
Gomes.